Random Thoughts (Part II)

[scooter_pimp]

Havent passed 1000 yet

Repped

[James Pattinson]

I'm 21 today.

May or may not be an invitation to rep

Negged for asking for rep.

But happy birthday.

[archiemoses]

Its my birthday in March

[scooter_pimp]

Havent passed 1000 yet

Negged

[archiemoses]

[Jihad]

I put you over 1000

[archiemoses]

I put you over 1000

[KaLL]

She's so indie

can you pls let it die

...we’re told the artist Lizzie Grant modeled herself after Britney Spears until her managers thought her fit to ascend the Best Coast throne. They orchestrated a Mad Men makeover, injected her lips with collagen, and renamed her Lana Del Rey.

The controversy over Del Rey isn’t about her music. It's that she’s “inauthentic,” apparently the worst thing an indie music star can be. Hipster RunOff ran a feature titled “Lana Del Rey EXPOSED: B4 she was alt, she was a failed mainstream artist without fake lips,” asking, “will she fool the Indiesphere?” The Los Angeles Times flipped Lana’s self-promotional press portrayal as the “gangster Nancy Sinatra” to “ersatz femme fetale.”

Indie / alternative music is no longer about musical style or how independent you are. Its about who you market yourself towards. Regardless of the quality of lana del ray's music (which i don't think is that bad, certainly better than some of the stuff thats out in the mainstream but not to my taste) what i've always tried to argue is that Del Ray is inauthentic in a music scene that tries to despise inauthenticity.

Whilst i have my strong criticisms about the indie music scene aswell, one can see the appeal in targeting your music towards that group. It's massive - sales will be great, its alot easier to break into than the mainstream scene, and it brings with it critical acclaim.

So in essence, what i'm saying is that Del Ray's management have targeted her image and music at the alternative / indie scene. They do this through album production - certain elements like the orchestral pop arrangement and the glam, hip hop and surf influences... but most importantly through who they mail press releases too, and their marketing campaigns.

Video Games was released on youtube with what appeared to be an 'independently' made video, featuring an old and retro look. The video would have been posted in the correct forums / music circles and then it took off.

Finally, if Lana Del Ray is not marketed as an 'indie artist', and i am completely off hilt like you say i'd like to ask why there has been such a controversy surrounding her image. There are many artists in the mainstream who are completely manufactured. Madonna, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Britney Spears are all the product of intense image manipulation - and then you can also see male artists like David Bowie, 'Bono' and 'The Edge' (or Paul and David by birth) who haven't receive any criticism for their similar image manipulations. I'd argue that's because such things have become a staple of mainstream music... Whereas the controversy arises with Lana Del Ray due to the fact it brings into question the integrity of the indie music scene and shows that it's making steps towards assimilating with the mainstream.

[Rumblah]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY WAnchorman!!!

[KaLL]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY W<b><a href="http://www.thisisafl.com/forums/member.php?u=13" target="_blank">Anchorman</a></b> !!!

[r dub]

Happry birthday Anchorman

[Anchorman]

Indie / alternative music is no longer about musical style or how independent you are. Its about who you market yourself towards. Regardless of the quality of lana del ray's music (which i don't think is that bad, certainly better than some of the stuff thats out in the mainstream but not to my taste) what i've always tried to argue is that Del Ray is inauthentic in a music scene that tries to despise inauthenticity.

Whilst i have my strong criticisms about the indie music scene aswell, one can see the appeal in targeting your music towards that group. It's massive - sales will be great, its alot easier to break into than the mainstream scene, and it brings with it critical acclaim.

So in essence, what i'm saying is that Del Ray's management have targeted her image and music at the alternative / indie scene. They do this through album production - certain elements like the orchestral pop arrangement and the glam, hip hop and surf influences... but most importantly through who they mail press releases too, and their marketing campaigns.

Video Games was released on youtube with what appeared to be an 'independently' made video, featuring an old and retro look. The video would have been posted in the correct forums / music circles and then it took off.

Finally, if Lana Del Ray is not marketed as an 'indie artist', and i am completely off hilt like you say i'd like to ask why there has been such a controversy surrounding her image. There are many artists in the mainstream who are completely manufactured. Madonna, Lady Gaga, Beyoncé, Rihanna, Britney Spears are all the product of intense image manipulation - and then you can also see male artists like David Bowie, 'Bono' and 'The Edge' (or Paul and David by birth) who haven't receive any criticism for their similar image manipulations. I'd argue that's because such things have become a staple of mainstream music... Whereas the controversy arises with Lana Del Ray due to the fact it brings into question the integrity of the indie music scene and shows that it's making steps towards assimilating with the mainstream.

[Gamblor]

Kall you're becoming very Damon like lately with your posts.

[KaLL]

Kall you're becoming very Damon like lately with your posts.

Fight damo with damo

[Indie]

Getting my shit sorted for school.

Vale holidays.