2012 Hyundai A-League Grand Final - Brisbane Roar vs Perth Glory (Sun 22nd April)

[Kompany]

Berisha airswinging it makes him fall over. I'm not making up anything. I've just described what is perfectly clear in the video.

There is no way you can show that the contact was not sufficient enough. It's not about the falling, it's about impeding him taking the shot.

[TakingthePapiss]

So you're happy for 45 penalties to be given every game, I take it?

[Kompany]

If 45 attacking players are being fouled when they attempt to score, then absolutely. The fact that there are 5 or 50 per game doesn't change anything to what should be the correct decision. I'm sorry but this is clear as daylight - the Perth player knew very well what he was doing and why he was doing it when he deliberately impeded Berisha. There is no way he should've gotten away with it.

Unrelated to this, I don't buy the "players are holding each other all the time at corners" argument either. It's simple. You cannot hold/push/pull your opponent. Players keep doing it because refs hardly ever have the guts to give a penalty for it. So these refereeing mistakes become the norm, and people get outraged when a ref ends up making a correct decision. As long as refs let this happen, players will keep impeding each other - and then it becomes a physical battle of who is the strongest which will always work in favour of the defending team.

[Dogbloke V2]

LOL drop the arrogance dude. Why not then? The foul and consequences of it are clear as daylight.



You know what, you're probably right, just as I wasn't complaining about Iniesta not getting a penalty at Stamford Bridge last week even though Cahill was clearly fouling him. Some to many fouls in the box don't get given for various reasons, but like I said earlier, that doesn't make any of those decisions correct.

This one did get given and looking at it afterwards, it's become clear why it was given. I've only ever defended the ref's decision. Most people who disagree seem to believe there was no foul at all, which is clearly not the case.

There was never enough contact to impede the shot. Let alone his fall. I will have to admit you to a crazy house if you honestly say that the contact made was enough for him to fall like that.

I actually think this decision is similar to youngs the other week. Was that a pen kompany?

[Kompany]

Yeah but as you can tell by the video, the contact was enough for him to lose his chance at a straight shot at goal (not to make him fall, he went down because of the airswing). There is no way he could and would've moved his left leg like that voluntarily. Because of the contact his left hits the ball, which then bounces and makes him airswing it. I know the contact was minimal and all but it was all it needed to be.

The only way I could see it not being a penalty is if you believe that he would've hit the ball and made the airswing without the contact as well, but I find that unlikely considering his left leg clearly changed direction because of contact.

I don't remember Young's particular incident.

[Dogbloke V2]

Yeah but as you can tell by the video, the contact was enough for him to lose his chance at a straight shot at goal (not to make him fall, he went down because of the airswing). There is no way he could and would've moved his left leg like that voluntarily. Because of the contact his left hits the ball, which then bounces and makes him airswing it. I know the contact was minimal and all but it was all it needed to be.

The only way I could see it not being a penalty is if you believe that he would've hit the ball and made the airswing without the contact as well, but I find that unlikely considering his left leg clearly changed direction because of contact.

I don't remember Young's particular incident.

Contact, defender knew what he was doings, penatly.
/kompany

[Kompany]

Mate, you gotta be taking the piss.

Berisha's tumble can be completely explained by the (minimal, I don't disagree with that) contact. None of Berisha's movements indicate that he is diving. We know the contact is there as we see the effect it has on Berisha's left leg. He cannot possibly fake this as the change of movement is way too sudden and practically impossible to have done by himself.

Young sees the Villa player's leg and runs into it, then decides to go for the dive. Young throws his right leg backward (this could never have happened because of the contact - he obviously does it himself, it is so unnatural when you look at it) and then tries to hook his left leg into him to make it look like a foul even more. This is such an obvious dive.

[Narkee]

So arms flailing around like a dickhead comes from minimal contact? He fucking milks it for all he can. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely disillusioned or just plain ignorant.

[that_dood]

Ultra slow-mo video and a magnifying glass are needed to show there is minimal contact. A mosquito would have made more contact than Miller did.

If that is a penalty then I give up watching football.

[Kompany]

Him milking it, being a dickhead and what not doesn't change anything to the fact that his left leg clearly made an unnatural movement because of the contact, made him make contact with the ball and airswing it. I didn't know this was so hard to understand.

It doesn't matter how minimal the contact is, what matters is what the consequences are and Berisha couldn't have faked those.

[Neville Neville]

So arms flailing around like a dickhead comes from minimal contact? He fucking milks it for all he can. Anyone who thinks otherwise is completely disillusioned or just plain ignorant.

Nobody said he didn't milk it. There was an it to milk though.